that is what they see in governor romney and paul ryan, someone with the courage to put forward real proposals. >>chris: now, the economic recovery, even though unemployment is down to 7.8 percent, no president has been re-elected with unemployment this high since fdr back in 1940, no president has been re-elected with growth this low since they began tracking g.d.p. in 1930. those are strong headwinds. >>guest: yes, but we need to also look at where we were and where we have come. we all remember how bad things were four years ago, losing 800,000 jobs a month and we are at five million plus jobs, steady job growth, increases and the g.d.p. numbers, i would like to see them higher but compare america to the rest of the world we are the shining shot in the whole world. china or india, look at us, we will lead the world recovery and the president has us back on the right track and we need to deal with the budget issues which my colleagues would agree, as well, in terms of not going over the fiscal cliff, but, i would echo what senator udall said, we don't really know what governor romn